“Nobody Died At Sandy Hook”
Epilogue
By: Dennis Cimino

This chapter’s author – Dennis Cimino – outs himself not only as an Obama “birther” in his 2nd paragraph, but a particularly gullible one as the claim that the President attended school as “Barry Soetoro” originated as an April Fool’s joke… back in 2009. So buckle in, everyone!

Cimino kicks things off by rambling on about the 2011 shooting of Congresswoman Gabrielle Giffords as well as the 2012 Aurora movie theater attack for two pages. While his claims regarding those two events are beyond the scope of this book, I want you to read the following paragraphs, which were written by an alleged PhD in an actual book:

The key begins in Tucson where the acting Sheriff, Clarence Dupnik, and his auxiliaries, staged the elaborate hoax that a federal judge and a Congress woman named “Gabby Giffords” were shot, the judge fatally. While Gabby may have been seriously seriously wounded, I have found multiple indications that suggest this, too, may have been a hoax. Evidence of purely FEMA staged acting was apparent in the fact that, when you do careful analysis of the photos of the scene, you can find many significant clues.

One is a FEMA coach, kneeling by a stretcher, cue-card in his nongloved hands, reading that, with a small plastic cup of fake blood there, at a site where allegedly real human beings were shot by an orange hair whacko named ‘Holmes’ that is so psychologically goofy looking you can barely stand to look at him, let alone realize he is like the rest, another Greenberg Zionist actor, participating in one of a series of hoaxes.

Notice anything kinda… off? I mean, beyond the standard crazy claims of FEMA coaches, cue-cards, fake blood, etc. Yes, Gabby Giffords was apparently shot by none other than James Holmes, six months before he killed twelve people in Aurora.

Of course this is 1000% incorrect: Giffords was (of course) shot by Jared Lee Loughner, who does not have orange hair, but is completely bald. So I can see how Cimino could get confused.

“We have Dawn Hochsprung, who was allegedly killed shielding children from the lone gunman, giving an interview to The Newtown BEE newspaper that morning.” pg. 198

Again, Cimino appears to be extremely confused, which I suppose is just a polite way of saying he has no idea what he’s talking about. It was never alleged that Dawn Hochsprung was killed while shielding children. Hochsprung was in a parent-teacher conference when she responded to the shooting and was killed in the school’s hallway along with Mary Sherlach. Hochsprung was not near any of the students. Cimino is likely thinking of Victoria Soto, who was not interviewed by the Newtown Bee (or BEE, I guess) that morning. The idea that Dawn Hochsprung was interviewed by The Newtown Bee after the shooting is covered in Chapter Five.

We’re only three pages in and this chapter is already an enormous mess.

“We have CNN video of SWAT team members running to the school door through a column of previously arranged orange traffic cones. Expecting someone important that day, were they? Especially since this was footage intentionally shown by CNN of a drill that had actually been staged at the school months before…  So we now know that the earlier drill was used by CNN (actually shot at St. Rose of Lima Elementary School, approximately 14 miles southwest of the closed Sandy Hook school, based upon information we now have that has matched up the helicopter vs. Google Earth view and beyond a reasonable doubt shows CNN effectively had to be in on the scam!) in more than one non-live shot of what allegedly took place on December 14th, but clearly did not.” pgs. 198-199

Speaking of enormous messes, what the fuck is even going on here? Cimino appears to suggest that the footage in question is from a drill conducted at Sandy Hook Elementary School (“the school”) “months before”. After an odd claim about asphalt sealant (which I’ve edited out), he then says that the “drill” actually took place at St. Rose of Lima, which he claims is “14 miles southwest” of Sandy Hook:

This is yet another major mistake (if not outright lie) that made it to print; the third such instance in this chapter thus far. St. Rose of Lima is actually only 1.4 miles away from Sandy Hook Elementary School:

But the two short clips in question do not depict a drill taking place anywhere. After all, how stupid would it be to run two simultaneous drills, both involving a significant number of people and resources, in two schools that are less than a mile and a half from one another?

What we’re actually looking at (albeit very briefly) is the police response to St. Rose of Lima, which was – like many other schools in the area – placed on lock down three times on December 14th, according to CT News. Cimino provides absolutely no proof whatsoever that these clips were filmed “months ago” or depict a training exercise. After all, when’s the last time you saw a group of police sprinting to a drill?

Zero proof is also provided for the claim that “you see at around 7 AM a helicopter hovering over the scene with a DETROIT fire truck in the footage”. The problem here is that A) nothing of the sort can be seen in the clip aired by (and still available via) CNN and B) no fire trucks from Detroit (a mere 669 mile or ten hour drive to Newtown) were photographed anywhere near either school. Cimino claims that this is due to the footage “disappearing from YouTube” which seems highly unlikely seeing as how plenty of videos making similar absurd claims have been readily available on YouTube for years:

Of course none of this prevents Cimino and Fetzer from publishing this nonsense.

Furthermore, simply from a logical standpoint (I know, I know), if Sandy Hook was shuttered in 2008 (it wasn’t), why on Earth would they run a practice drill at the open St. Rose of Lima, which the author mistakenly believes is 14 miles away? And on the same exact day? Is Dennis Cimino now suggesting that St. Rose of Lima was also closed? If so, then why did deniers bother calling in a bomb threat? More disconcertingly, why was Wolfgang Halbig found sitting in a car outside of the school, filming students like some sort of fucking creep? Where are the portable toilets? The “Everybody Must Check In” sign? The bottled water? Etc. Why doesn’t this drill look anything like the one at Sandy Hook?

“Now it has been firmly established that many crisis actors were used in Newtown” pg. 199

It has?? Did the folks at Snopes finally get off of their lazy asses call all of those crisis actor agencies??

“The most notable one is Robbie Parker, who is told ‘just read the card’” pg. 199

No one says that.

“I don’t know about you, but nobody can explain away his very poor acting here” pg. 199

Maybe that’s because it’s not acting.

“Later that day we have the coroner, Wayne Carver, who is oddly out of character” pg. 200

Seeing as how this is Carver’s first-ever press conference (at least that I could find), I’m curious as to what the reference point is for his “character”. I’d also like to know if Dennis Cimino believes that working through the night, processing the bodies of twenty murdered five and six year-old children, may have some sort of substantial impact on a person’s demeanor.

“It is not possible that nobody would survive any shooting involving 27 people, under any remote stretch of the imagination. Someone would have been found clinging to life, yet no triage existed that day to ascertain this, and someone mysteriously, not this flakey-acting coroner, had decreed that all were ‘dead’ on the scene” pg. 200

It’s almost like Dennis Cimino has zero knowledge of the subject he’s writing about. Two children were, in fact, found “clinging to life”. They were rushed to the Danbury Hospital, where they later succumbed to their injuries. Two adults – Deborah Pisani and Natalie Hammond – also survived the attack.

The idea that the victims were not triaged is of course false, as demonstrated earlier in this book when we saw the injured Deborah Pisani being treated at the secondary triage area by the firehouse:

The triaging of Deborah Pisani is extensively corroborated throughout multiple statements in the final report:

When I got up to the scene I was stopped by the State Police and was told the scene wasn’t safe. I then proceeded up to primary triage, located at the front of the school. The only person who was wounded was a teacher who was shot in the foot. I was walking her down to the treatment area when a group of students came running out of the school. One of the students yelled out to ask her if she was ok, and she responded “I’m just fine, I only sprained my ankle!” I think she is very brave. Once I got her to the treatment area at the firehouse I turned over her care to other personnel, and went back up to triage. (Source: Book 6, 00002134.pdf)

I exited the vehicle and proceeded to remove any medical equipment we might need into an area that would be called a triage station. EMS Captain Halsted Firefighter Berressi and myself were notified of a potential patient located at the comer of the parking lot furthest from the school. We found and rendered aid to the patient with a laceration to the foot. After wrapping the wound we transferred care to a female member of Newtown EMS. We then returned to the triage station area to continue preparing for the possibility of more patients. (Source: Book 6, 00256439.pdf)

On the way there were several vehicles that had to be moved but we managed to set up a triage post in the first parking lot between the stop signs. At some point someone came to get us and we treated a female GSW victim near one of the parked cars. We continued to prepare for casualties. But none ever came out. We were not allowed to enter the building and slowly we were moved back to a second triage center. (Source: Book 6, 00256436.pdf)

The children were (obviously) triaged inside of the school by EMS personnel. This is also well-documented in the final report:

The victims were first identified by assigning them a numeric number 3 thru 26. ([Redacted] and number 27 was assigned to the shooter). Then an assigned “OCME case number” was written on a tag with their previously assigned numeric and was placed on each victim. Photographic and written scene documentation was completed capturing clothing worn, location of victim, and assigned “OCME case number” with identifying photographs of the victim. (NOTE: Prior to processing, the victims were observed to have “triage tags” previously laid upon their bodies by EMS personnel denoting their deceased status). (Source: CFS 1200704597, 00118939.pdf)

Cassavechia stated that four separate patient assessments were made to guarantee no one was resuscitatable. Cassavechia said that the victims were formally triaged using the SMART triage program. (Source: Book 6, 00002113.pdf)

Reed stated they then assessed the two adult victims in the hallway and utilized the cardiac machine. Reed stated that Cassavechia had spoken to the Emergency Medical Control Physician D. Pat Broderick and they decided that all the victims with obvious non-life sustainable head wounds would be checked with the cardiac machine. Reed stated they re-assessed the victims in the rooms utilizing the cardiac machine. Reed stated that all the victims were given a triage tag, except for the victims in the bathroom. Those tags were put on the thermostat outside the bathroom door. Reed stated they did not want to disturb the crime scene any more than they already had. Reed stated with each victim that they utilized the cardiac machine on they left the EKG printout from the machine on the triage tag of the victim. (Source: Book 6, 00002358.pdf)

There were also a number of child victims in the room. I remember moving quickly among the bodies, checking for signs of life as I triaged their injuries. Some had injuries which were obviously not consistent with life; others took a little more time. It was my assessment that all victims in Room #10 were dead or gravely injured. (Source: Book 6, 00026724.pdf)

Sgt. Cario began to yell to the victims to determine if there were any live victims. There was no response from anyone. Sgt. Cario began to move the victims from their location to triage their injuries. (Source: Book 6, 00041707.pdf)

“Not at Newtown, where they all died instantaneously and were declared DEAD by someone other than the medical examiner that day. By whom? By what authority?” pg. 200

The idea that only the medical examiner can declare someone dead is bunko (as is the idea that everyone died instantaneously, as covered above). EMS declared the victims dead, and they did so in accordance with Connecticut State law. For a more detailed explanation, check out this excellent write-up over on Sandy Hook Facts.

“James Tracy has a brilliant critique of Carver’s performance here, where, if ABC/NCB[sic]/CBS are correct in their reporting (that the body was found with only handguns and the rifle had been left in the car), then what precisely are we to make of Carver’s contention that they were all shot with the Bushmaster?” pg. 200

Well, seeing as how Carver was absolutely right, the only thing anyone should make of any report from any agency that suggests Adam’s body was found “only with handguns and the rifle had been left in the car” is that they are erroneous. I’m not sure exactly which reports these are as, once again, Dennis Cimino refuses to cite a single source.

Here is exactly what was said regarding the weapons, all of which is 100% true:

Question: Doctor, on that examination, could you tell which caliber of the handgun compared to the rifle on these shooting victims were?
Carver: It’s a good thing there’s not a prosecution ’cause then I couldn’t answer that. All the wounds that I know of at this point are caused by one weapon.
Question: So the rifle was the primary weapon?
Carver: Yes.
Question: What caliber was used?
Carver: The question was what caliber were these bullets. And I know I probably know more about firearms than most pathologists but if I say it in court, they yell at me and make me answer. So I’ll let the police deal with that for you.
Question: Doctor, can you tell about the nature of the wounds? Were they at very close range? Were the children shot from across the room?
Carver: I only did seven of the autopsies. Victims I had ranged from 3 to 11 wounds apiece, and I only saw 2 of them with close-range shooting. But that’s – you know, that’s a sample. I really don’t have detailed information on the rest of the injuries.
Question: Wait, you said it was the long rifle that was used?
Carver: Yes.

“There is even a report that Carver himself has admitted that it was ‘a hoax’.” pg. 200

No, there isn’t. Again, Cimino does not provide a source. Not even a quote!

“United Way forgot to check the schedule before they had set up the fraudulent ‘fleece America’ site to get money from bleeding hearts who wanted to donate to the HOAX fund to pay these crisis actors. Yep, on 11 December this donation site was set up by United Way.” pg. 201

This was already addressed in Chapter Five.

“And the brochure for telling families how to talk to their kids just happened to be released that day, when anyone in the brochure printing business knows that the laying up of a brochure and the production takes days not just an hour or two. Yet it was done on December 14th. And there is evidence it was produced on 12 December, two days before the shooting, meaning again that this was a hoax–and an act of treason.” pg. 201

Of course Cimino never presents this “evidence” or even a single source for his claim, so I can only assume – based on what I’ve found on other conspiracy sites (such as Maria Hsia Chang’s awful “Fellowship of the Minds”) – that he’s referring to “Talking With Children/Students About the Sandy Hook Elementary Shooting”. This is a two page PDF (not a physical, printed brochure as the author falsely claims), completely devoid of graphics and full of boilerplate advice, produced by the Crisis Management Institute. Obviously PDFs of this size and scope can easily be produced in a manner of minutes and certainly do not take hours, let alone days.

According to CMI themselves, they first published the document on December 17th. And if we utilize the Internet Archive’s Wayback Machine – which is the exact same tool Fetzer and his goofball crew used to (falsely, of course) conclude that Sandy Hook closed in 2008we see that this PDF was first indexed on December 21st. The nonsensical idea that it was first produced prior to December 14th, 2012 stems from the document’s URL, which is automatically generated by WordPress:

http://www.cmionline.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/Talking-With-Your-Children-About-the-Sandy-Hook-Elementary-Shooting.pdf

This directory would have been created in October of 2012, or somewhere around two months before the shooting (Hey! That’s a page a month!). Of course no attempt is ever made to explain why the Obama administration would take the enormous and unnecessary risk of creating yet another co-conspirator (rather than relying on the DHS, for example) simply to have them write up something so short and ultimately insignificant, months ahead of time. But that’s to be expected.

So what actually happened here? In a blog post Dennis Cimino doesn’t believe his readers should see, the document’s author, Cheri Lovre, explains:

The blog’s claims about me are based in one of them having downloaded the guidelines on how to talk with children about the Sandy Hook shooting, and having looked at the data of information electronically linked to that PDF.  It is easy to tell that the PDF I created the day of the shooting was made from a word document, and that that original word document was made prior to the shooting.  That part is true.  I have templates for a range of kinds of crises so when one occurs, I now almost never start from scratch.  I take the closest set of guidelines from the past, delete and edit and wordsmith, and create a new PDF.  Hurricanes, missing children, terrorist attacks, terminal illness, suicide, and yes – school shootings.  I have numerous templates.

That is how simple it is.  That I used a previous document to recreate the new one so I didn’t have to re-type paragraphs that were OK to use again for Sandy Hook.  When I received the first email from them suggesting that I should come clean about how I would have known about Sandy Hook before it happened (based on thinking that I’d created the PDF before it happened) I went to the web site referenced in the email and was absolutely shocked and amazed at the tirade that had unfolded on that blog.  I asked my tech support fellow what he could know by looking further into it, and he very forthrightly got on the blog and responded to every accusation.  A very few of the bloggers took his comments as information – the rest were spiteful toward Brant in their responses.  You can go to their blog to read his lengthy explanations.  He is a prince among men, and his efforts were valiant!

Cheri is referring to a lengthy comment left by her “tech support fellow”, Brant, on one of the handful of posts made regarding this subject on Maria Hsia Chang’s “Fellowship of the Minds”. He writes:

Timeline:

1. Sometime on the 14th Cheri wrote content about Sandy Hook on our Current Events page and uploaded the PDF in question (using one of the 3 different ways she can do this within the page editor and she must hae chosen the one that has a quirk when used in this way to make a simple link to a file, the user has to click on it once, then is shown a page with just a link to that file on it, after clicking on that link, you finally get the file.

(I tried just now to reproduce this, but since we are now running WordPress 3.5.1 it doesn’t work the same anymore.)

2. Cheri emails me later that day to ask if I can “fix” that. You can see that in the top part of this graphic, a screenshot I just took of my email from that day.

(Note that I put this file in the same directory that is in question, just for fun at this point)

What I did was download the file from the site myself, opened up Filezilla (FTP client), used the quick connect (remembered server logins) feature which took me to the last place I navigated to, and just dragged the file into that directory, which uploaded it to wp-content/uploads/2012/10/. That is the October directory that was auto created back the, by the way, nothing to do with “Dec 10th”. (This you can see in the lower part of the graphic I just made at the link above.)

I then would have manually edited the Current Events page link to reflect this URL.

While Cheri and especially Brant from CMI went above and beyond to explain the situation, deniers reacted… rather predictably, as documented in Cheri’s original blog post:

What has transpired has become hateful, vicious and – of course – entirely unfounded.  We receive hate emails, hate phone calls, and even more vicious harassment in their website.  It is character assassination and harassment at its finest.  And it has given me a terrific gift.

Prior to now, my presentation on cyber-bullying and suicide has been just like all my colleagues – based in research and observation by working with youth who are tormented by what is said about them online.  This experience with the conspiracy theorists has given me terrific insights about what the students are experiencing.  There is a terrific difference, however.  My sense of identity has been fully formed for decades.  I know who I am, and what I do, and what my gifts are in this world.  Likewise, my experience with social media is with adults who are mature users;  interesting, considerate, respectful, creative, loving, fun, intriguing, and kind.  I’m thankful for all of that, because who I am and what my social media life reflects is that of a fulfilled life.

What I recognize, though, is that this experience allows me to grasp, like never before, is that this same kind of hateful and vengeful anonymous attacks on youth can and does change their beliefs about whether the world is a kind and loving place.  They are still in identify formation.  And increasingly, they’re suffering from “virtual dissociation” in which their identity is more closely tied to what is said about them online than what they experience face-to-face.

My presentations on cyber-bullying and suicide have become immeasurably more powerful than ever before, because of this experience.  Every presentation since has brought out remarkable awareness for those in attendance, and they leave with a much greater commitment to supporting youth who are bullied online.  And quite delightfully, it has generated a showering of “love mail” (which is what people have actually called it!) because attendees feel badly that I’ve had to weather this experience, so they leave the presentation and then send me wonderful messages!

I’m not feeling sorry or sad or bothered by all of this.  It has had a great purpose in my professional life.  I love what one woman asked after the first training in which I mentioned this.  “Are you going to become an activist about social media?”  My response is, “Oh, I hope I already am!”  That is the gift in all of this.”

Never change, dummies.

“Ironically, the same dress is worn by the vicSIM girl–although some maintain that she is actually her sister–when being photographed with President Obama, but we are told that dresses can be used by any child.” pg. 201

Is that something that anyone really needs to be told? Does Dennis Cimino not understand how clothing works? Or is it specifically children’s clothing (much like the true meaning of the word “ironic”) that’s giving him fits?

“We know that Gabriel Giffords and a Federal Judge were not shot in Tucson without blood being everywhere, yet not one EMS person on the scene there had any blood.” pg. 202

No blood, huh?

Hey, wait a minute… that last photo looks awfully familiar. I’m almost positive that I saw it earlier in this chapter, back on page 196.

Ah, there it is. It’s the same exact picture! Only it’s been cropped in such a way that Dennis Cimino could claim that the scene was bloodless. Pretty sneaky, sis!

On that very same page, Cimino also includes a photo of Gabbie Giffords being taken away on a stretcher and uses it to make the ridiculous claim that “no blood is present”. However, if we look at the following photo, which depicts the very same scene, blood is very clearly visible on her head (you know, where she was shot).

“We can prove the long rifle alleged by Wayne ‘fake coroner’ Carver in Newtown was found in the trunk of a black Honda that evening” pg. 202

So wait, now Wayne Carver’s not even a real coroner? Since Carver’s history as Connecticut’s Chief Medical Examiner can easily be traced back to 1986 using old news articles, this seems like a pretty bold claim to make without presenting even a shred of evidence. But what else is new?

Also, seeing as how it was a single shotgun in the trunk (purposely placed there by Officer Pena after he initially discovered it in the backseat of Adam’s Civic), this would be extremely difficult for anyone to prove. Not that Cimino even tries.

Now I’m not sure what to say about the remainder of this chapter other than it’s so completely batshit insane that it almost (almost) makes the preceding 202 pages look kinda reasonable by comparison. Beginning on page 203, Cimino theorizes that, on December 14th, 2012, the “entire CT State emergency communications system” was shut down – “unplugged” – and replaced with a “FEMA/DHS ‘shadow’ command center”. That’s quite an incredible claim and surely it is backed up by very strong, irrefutable evidence!

“Police and Dispatch, nation wide, use a very time honored ALPHA PHONETIC System to enunciate alpha numeric data between the officers and the dispatchers. It is different from what military use, and it is so ingrained and dyed into the wool of real law enforcement and dispatchers for a good reason. Any error can cost not only the officer his life, but potentially cost others their lives either by sending people to the wrong address or by implicating the wrong person in a crime, or missing a criminal during a CODE TEN run on the person through the system. During the course of the running of the black Honda, this ALPHA PHONETIC police and dispatch protocol was totally out the window and not used at all.” pg. 203

Fuck. Seriously?

With hours of audio to sort through, a timestamp would have been extremely helpful here, but Cimino does not provide one. In its place, I’ll refer to Book 4, 00184096.pdf from the final report:

9:42:39 Officer Penna calls out the license plate on shooter’s vehicle as he runs past the vehicle toward the dumpster: (Newtown radio)
Officer Penna: “D5, eight seven two Yellow Echo October may be suspect’s vehicle.”

CSP Lt (MSGT) Davis: “…just be advised we may have two shooters and we may have a suspect vehicle that they might have pulled up in… CT eight-seven-two- Yankee-echo- Oscar..black Honda.”

10:35:35 Officer Penna: “I need the address of the residence of this Connecticut reg. It’s gonna be the same one I gave you before, Connecticut Passenger eight –seven- two- Yankee –echo-October (YEO).”

10:35:46 Newtown Dispatcher Barocsi: “Roger eight-seven-two (872)-yankee–echo- October (YEO), standby.”

“The 33 frequency change modification to the communications plan for Connecticut that went into effect 5 hours before the staged hoax went down, happened for a reason. It entirely circumvented all normal radio and police functions in Connecticut on this day. The screen shots of these 33 frequency changes, which were made just hours before the event, and of the ‘dummy’ non-named frequency allocation to one ‘phantom’ that would not normally be blanked out like this in any normal frequency allocation chart, are published here.” pg. 206

This one was discussed on the forums for RadioReference, which is the site Dennis Cimino used to conduct this groundbreaking “research”. I think the following exchange sums it all up very nicely:

“It would not be unreasonable to conclude that Site 1-22 was the DHS or FEMA master control site, which was monitoring every communication related to Sandy Hook that day and make sure that no information that would blow its cover got out.” pg. 207

It would be extremely unreasonable (if not crazy) due to the fact that Site 1-22 is actually Westport or Wilton.

6 Thoughts on “Fact Checking “Nobody Died At Sandy Hook”, Epilogue

  1. The alleged admittance that Sandy Hook was a hoax supposedly made by Dr. Carver came from a radio program caller. This seems to be the way that complicit hosts introduce false information – they have a caller who has no real sources or a last name call into the show with some explosive information that is then disseminated as if it were fact as on page 200 in Fetzer’s book which is full of copyright violations, among other things.

    From http://www.curezone.org/forums/fm.asp?i=2030175:
    “On Friday, January 25, 2013, on the The Power Hour w/ Joyce Riley, a woman by the name of ‘Bonnie’ called in and reported that the Sandy Hook coroner, Dr. H. Wayne Carver II, was spotted in Las Vegas. The woman claims she has information that she obtained from a close friend, who owns a business in the area.”

    She claims, “he just got back from Las Vegas, now mind you, this business owner is not like one of us – you know, he is just a normal citizen, but he told him he said – he was in Las Vegas and he was at one of the tables, and across the table from him was the coroner from Sandy Hook” (Photo obtained; Vegas Card).”

    “He took a picture of him on his Cell Phone , and uh, so the guy they got, they got to talking when he saw him take a picture and the man said… “You know, this is pretty fishy about Sandy Hook and its starting to look like a hoax,” and the doctor said, “it was a hoax.”

    • Shill Murray on May 31, 2016 at 2:12 pm said:

      Wow. So a “normal citizen” recognizes Wayne Carver at a table in Vegas, this “normal citizen” tells Wayne Carver that Sandy Hook was “fishy”, and Wayne Carver – knowing that this person just snapped a picture of him (which of course no one has) – just blurts out that it was all a “hoax”? Pretty flimsy, even by denier standards.

  2. Yes, isn’t that absolutely amazing! I just posted an article referring to your expose of Cimino’s epilogue at: https://screeningsandyhook.net/2016/06/01/exposing-the-deceptions/

    • Shill Murray on June 2, 2016 at 2:50 pm said:

      Thank you for the kind words, Deanna. I really appreciate it. Bullshit is more popular than ever these days, so it’s great to see more people spreading the truth and provide a little more balance.

      You’re most right about the fake name. We’re dealing with people who really get off on pretty serious harassment (which includes death threats), but I’m more concerned for my family, etc, than I am with myself. I know that these people are too chickenshit to come and pay me a visit in person, but the last thing I need is some goofball harassing my family at work, etc.

  3. Fascinating. Yet, did I miss it – you are providing actual 1st person eye witness testimony to you being on site during the event?

    Thanks for clearing my oversite, if you will kindly do so.

    Claude

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