“Nobody Died At Sandy Hook”
By: James Fetzer
Chapter six is nothing more than a transcription of a thirty minute interview with someone by the name of Paul Preston from May, 2014. That’s it. That’s how little effort was put into this book and indicative of how little Fetzer thinks of his readers. The interview isn’t even premium content; it’s available to anyone.
So who is Paul Preston? Much like Wolfgang Halbig, he’s continually referred to as a “school security expert” yet I can’t find anything to back that up.
It shouldn’t surprise anyone that while all of these people tout Paul as a “school safety expert”, they neglect to mention that he is first and foremost one of them. As in he’s a very dedicated, very active conspiracy theorist. In April of 2012 (eight months before Sandy Hook), he started an Internet radio show/website dedicated to conspiracy theories called “Agenda 21 Radio” where he covers everything from Agenda 21 (well, duh), to Obama’s birth certificate (it’s fake), to ISIS (they’re fake), etc. He has a real hard-on for guns as well as hating Barack Obama, so it shouldn’t be much of a surprise that he hopped on the Sandy Hook bandwagon.
In my attempt to learn a bit more about the guy, I found a poorly worded and even more poorly formatted biography on another conspiracy theory website called “Patriots Around The Lake”. I have to assume he’s a contributor there. Anyway, it makes the claim that he was either a school administrator or assistant principal (are those one in the same? I honestly don’t know) at El Dorado High School in California when Janet Evans went to the Olympics in 1988. But this article from the LA Times quotes Paul extensively and refers to him as the school’s “director of activities”. Here’s a poor OCR scan of a yearbook page from that year which would appear to confirm this. And he was still listed as “activities director” a year later, in 1989. This is after fifteen years of “teaching environmental and biological sciences”, according to his bio. So that’s strange. And Paul, why do you hate surfing? C’mon, brah.
It also sounds like Paul was pitching “staged events” back in the 90’s, at least as long as a Democrat was in office:
“Paul’s research lead him and others to the conclusion that the Orange County Bankruptcy was a staged event known as a Cloward and Piven Strategy designed by the Clinton administration.”
So while this version of his biography states that Paul “has for years worked with law enforcement in implementing successful anti-drug and anti-gang awareness” (uh-huh) and he “has been trained by law enforcement in drug, alcohol recognition and has utilized his training to identify several thousand adults and students who were under the influence” (haha, okay!), the only mention of “safety” comes from the time he allegedly spent “as a county School Attendance and Review Board (SARB) Chairman and served on Governor Schwarzenegger’s ‘Cyber Safety’ committee representing the Association of California School Administrators through the Department of Consumer Affairs, which partnered with the California Coalition for Children’s Internet Safety to help parents and community leaders protect children from predators in the online world.” I guess that sounds kind of relevant, right? Sort of? But in the committee’s own literature, it only lists him as a moderator for a “Role of Schools in the Online World” workshop. His name is nowhere to be found in the committee list. Even if it were (and again, it’s not), I’m not entirely sure how relevant something like that would be to the mass murder of elementary school children.
Also included in the search results for Paul was a Reddit comment that mentions Paul’s involvement in to some Charter School scam, but the article the comment linked to had been taken down. His bio does make the claim that he founded “two charter schools and one private school”, but they’re not named. That struck me as pretty odd as he mentions the high school he worked at by name, but wouldn’t you be more proud of three schools that you started? Anyway, when I searched on “Paul Preston charter school”, I found this news report from 2011 about his “The California College, Career and Technical Education Center”. Copies of the article can be found on sites like “Charter School Scandals” and “White Chalk Crime”. Here’s more, including a list of some of the charges that were brought up against Paul and his phony school by the state of California. You likely get the idea at this point. I couldn’t find anything at all about a 2nd charter school or a private school.
I did e-mail Paul around a week or so ago to pointedly ask him what his credentials and certifications are, but he never replied. He does make the claim on page 103 that “we watched with a lot of intensity – especially under my own circumstances – and also by watching the videos and replays of the other active shooter situations, I became sort of a specialist in that”. I also e-mailed someone who worked with Paul at the “Yolo Continuation High School” and asked if they could verify any of his claims. He wrote back “I do remember that he talked about being on a local SARB before he came to West Sacramento. He talked about how he could identify the students who were using drugs.” He’s like a superhero! He can tell who is on drugs! And if he can tell who is on drugs, he can undoubtedly sniff out a false flag.
Anyway, I think it’s safe to say that his credentials are pretty suspect and his motivation even more so.
Now on to the interview!
Paul kicks things off by claiming “I’ve been involved in many many situations at schools that have been, you know, emergency type situations and was involved even to some degree with the Columbine situation”. Whoa! Wait a minute! Paul was involved with the Columbine uh, “situation”? That’s a big deal! But how did a school activities director from California get mixed up with the Columbine shooting? I’m on the edge of my seat here! Thankfully, he continues:
“We had an individual who was trying to blow up the school, our school, at the time. In a similar fashion to what was a predicted bomb threat that occurred at Columbine three days before the Columbine shooting, and that’s how we kind of got in touch with the Columbine people. They got in touch with us because it turned out to be a similar neo-Nazi group that was related to the Trenchcoat Mafia, of all people.”
… oh. So, not actually involved with the Columbine “situation” whatsoever. Okay! At least that goes a long way towards explaining his completely absurd claims about “The Trenchcoat Mafia”, which was investigated by the Jefferson County Sheriff’s office and found to be “a loose, social affiliation of former and current Columbine High School students with no formal organizational structure, leadership or purpose such as that typically found in traditional juvenile street gangs”. And with “no evidence of affiliated Trench Coat Mafia groups nationwide”, one may wonder where school activities director Paul Preston may have gotten the idea that they were a “neo-Nazi group” with ties to California and designs on blowing up his school… for some reason. Well, would you believe “neo-Nazi websites”?
“And so our staff, myself, we all wanted to sit down and figure where this was all going to and we studied a lot of the Nazi websites and so on, and we figured out that yes, something big was going to happen.”
“Now I have always told everybody when you’re seeing these things play out in real time, the best news reporting is what’s happening in real time – that day of, you know, the moments that are around the incident.” pg. 103
Who told him this? Because it literally could not be more wrong.
The media has a long and ugly history of getting it wrong early on, and while certainly a major contributor, the blame cannot be placed solely on the twenty-four hour news cycle. Long before cable news, the media fucked it all up, going as far back as the sinking of the Titanic. Or the assassination of JFK. In an article titled “Are breaking news mistakes even worth covering anymore?”, Politico has gone as far to say, “Getting it wrong seems to have become the industry standard.” And here’s an article from the Tampa Bay Times on errors in breaking news, framed by the Sandy Hook tragedy. So don’t do this. Don’t listen to Paul Preston . Please.
“People weren’t rushing around. People weren’t panicking.” pg. 103
First of all, minor quibble, but you can absolutely panic without rushing around just as you can rush around without being panicked. But if you watch the entirety of the Channel 12 helicopter footage Preston is referring to (which was filmed ~10:54AM), you can see a number of people do either (or both).
For the most part, by this point, there was no real reason for everyone to rush around; the school was clear and the children had all been evacuated and likely reunited with their parents. With the exception of Deborah Pisani (who was still on the triage tarp at the time), the few survivors had already been transported to Danbury hospital. The people who remained at the firehouse were waiting to hear news about the students and teachers who were still unaccounted for.
“They ran that one guy off into the woods and then they arrested him. They took him away and there was no connectedness to that.” pg. 103
Nobody was “run off into the woods” and no one was arrested. Being detained does not mean that you’re being arrested. You think a “school security expert” would know that, right? Watch more “COPS”, homie.
Anyway, despite having been sorted out years ago, conspiracy theorists still lean heavily on the mysterious “man in the woods”. Because it sounds super creepy, right? It’s the woods! So who was it? There were actually four people found in the woods that day, two of which were briefly detained:
- An unnamed off-duty tactical squad police officer from New York who was working in a nearby town and went to Sandy Hook after receiving an alert on his phone. He drove to the firehouse and went up to the school on foot. He was taken from the scene in handcuffs, questioned, and then released. He had no connection to the shooting.
- Chris Manfredonia, the father of a Sandy Hook student. According to his police interview (Book 5, document #00014498), he had arrived about ten minutes early for a scheduled activity. After parking his car, he noticed children running from the school and as he approached the front door, he heard gunshots and saw the glass fragments on the ground. Once he realized what was going on, he called 9-1-1 and “tried some of the doors and looked into the windows” in order to try and locate his child’s class. It was at this point that he was ordered to the ground and briefly handcuffed by responding officers.
Chris’s story is corroborated by Newtown Patrol Police Sergeant David Kullgren’s statement (Book 6, –1.pdf):
“I then heard Officer McGowan radio that he had an adult male attempting to gain access to the school on the back left side. Thinking this may be the shooter attempting escape we made a determination that I would break off from Officer Chapman and Officer Smith and assist Officer McGowan. I ran around the left of the school and observed Officer McGowan who had an adult white male with his hands up. The white male had short brown hair he appeared to be in his early forties wearing a navy blue or black tweed type jacket. He stated he was a parent tying to get his child. I had the male prone out and began handcuffing him when Captain Rios took over.”
The other two people discovered in the woods (which sounds sinister until you realize that the school is literally surrounded by trees, or “woods”) were reporters who were held at gunpoint until their identities could be determined.
There’s your “connectedness”, Paul.
“And I didn’t see any students either and that really bothered me.” pg. 103
Because they had been evacuated, reunited with their parents at the fire house, and then sent home. Why would they stick around beyond that? Again, Preston is basing this off of helicopter footage taken somewhere around 11AM.
“Well, just within the first 10 or 15 minutes, it just all looked too staged to me, and I know about staging these things since I’ve staged a number of them.” pg. 104
Is Paul Preston saying that he has staged a number of school shootings? Is he capable of providing proof of this? Or any of his other claims, for that matter? I’m not so sure that he can.
“I know it’s a high school, but you know, you saw the kids right away and you saw their plan of evacuation of the school unfolding” pg. 104
You would not have seen an evacuation plan unfolding at nearly 11AM because the children had already been evacuated. According to some of the children who spoke to police, they did follow their evacuation plan by exiting the front door and forming a single-file line. Chris Manfredonia corroborated this in his police interview:
“He stated that he parked his car and when he exited his car, he saw a group of children running in a straight line down the sidewalk in front of the school.”
“Normally if you have the tarps out there…in every active shooter situation you have ever see, there’s somebody on the tarp” pg. 105
This was covered in the Chapter Five debunk.. Almost everyone was already dead. Three injured persons – an adult and two children – were rushed directly to the hospital, where the two children died. Deborah Pisani was initially treated on a triage tarp and then transferred to the hospital for surgery. Who else would have even been on it?
“We–a side note to this is that I have a lot of sources in and around and in that area. I have a lot of sources in regards to as to what’s going on with the president and the administration and so on, and every one of my sources said it was a false flag.” pg. 106
Hahahaha. Riiight. So in addition to all of of Newtown, CT (pop. 27,560 or so), you now have the entirety of the Obama administration that is complicit in this thing. And members of Obama’s administration have no problem telling Paul Preston, host of a conspiracy theorist podcast as well as sham charter school administrator, all about it? And he’s safe in relaying this information just as long as he doesn’t name names? Give me a fucking break.
“I was already being told about these charity sites that had been developed. By the way, they were put up the day before the shooting.” pg. 107
Except that they weren’t. This has been covered in the Chapter Five debunk.
“And of course the funerals to me…you go and look at the whole funeral process. It looked like they were all staged, from the Robbie Parker one in Utah, or the Sarah Parker one with the Parker family.” pg. 107
Okay, what is this even based on? Why do they look staged? And who is Sarah Parker? Does he mean Sarah Jessica Parker? She wasn’t involved (OR WAS SHE? She wasn’t). Emilie Parker, on the other hand, is one of the victims.
“And then I started getting information from people that actually had attended that funeral who lived in Utah and said that was something very funny about it.” pg. 107
Okay, what did they say was funny about it? Why not elaborate?
“And so, it’s a good question. It really is a fair question to ask whether or not they were real families.” pg. 108
No, it’s definitely not. That’s a terrible, stupid question that only an insensitive numbnuts would ask someone who has just lost a child. If you think they’re actors, go ahead and hire them. Dig up their W-2s. Find some proof – any proof – and present it. Something. Anything.
“When you see a couple, if they seem really like an odd couple, then that kind of strikes you as weird. And I saw that. I saw a very odd coupled-ness with lots of these Sandy Hook families. It seemed to me, why would this person marry this person and live with them? They’re so totally different.” pg. 108
Odd coupled-ness? Fucking hell. What is this even based on? And how could someone come to such a conclusion after watching a television interview about their murdered child? This is absolute insanity.
“And I’ve see a lot of the pictures and so on, and some of the pictures don’t match up, especially the one of the Parkers in the White House. And it looks like to me that’s Sarah Parker sitting there that’s, you know, supposed to be a victim.” pg. 108
Again, he can’t even get the name right. They put this in a book! And people bought it! Again, he means Emilie and that’s Emilie’s younger sister, Madeline, posing with Barack Obama. You’d have to be a total lunatic to think that they’re the same person. You’d also have to be a dunce not to realize that those pictures weren’t taken in the White House. Unless they moved it to Newtown.
“What do you think of this privacy issue that has been bandied about by the authorities, that all the privacy needs to be respected, and you can’t reveal this or that…? P – That to me just adds more fuel to the fire because that’s not what you do in the normal situation of an incident command system.” pg. 110
Holy shit, what? Seriously, what the fuck?
“Well there’s many things about him. I just …I …first of all, I didn’t understand why all of a sudden there’s 26 bodies and then there’s no coroner or doctor who’s looked at the bodies and they’re declared dead.” pg. 110
Prior to WDMC and OCME processing the bodies, EMS personnel made a presumption of death (as they are legally permitted to do) and placed black triage tags on their bodies to denote their deceased status (CFS 1200704597, 00118939.pdf). Michael Cassavechia, the Director of Emergency Services for Danbury Hospital, stated that “four separate patient assessments were made to guarantee no one was resuscitatable” (Book 6, 00002113.pdf). This is defined in the SMART triage system that James Fetzer (falsely) claims was not followed and it is Connecticut state law.
“And then all of a sudden the coroner comes out and everybody says that there was an automatic gun or a handgun that was used, and the coroner, on his own, comes out and says ‘oh no, that was an AR15 that was used.’” pg. 110
This is a weird (and incorrect: he never stated that it was an AR15) summary of Wayne Carver’s conversation with the press, and I’m a little confused as to what the implication is. Members of the press were confused (as has been established) and Wayne Carver – being the medical examiner – had more information than them. So what?
Here’s a transcript of the relevant interaction from that press conference:
UNIDENTIFIED MALE REPORTER: Doctor, on that examination, could you tell which caliber of the handgun compared to the rifle of these shooting victims were?
CARVER: It’s a good thing it’s not a prosecution because then I couldn’t answer you that. But, all of the wounds I know of at this point were caused by the long weapon.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE REPORTER: So the rifle was the primary weapon.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE REPORTER: What caliber were the —
CARVER: The question was what caliber were these bullets. I know, I probably know more about firearms than most pathologists but if I say it in court they yell at me and don’t make me answer. So I’ll let the police deal with that for you.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE REPORTER: Doctor, can you tell about the nature of the wounds? Were they at very close range? Were the children shot from across the room?
CARVER: I only did seven of the autopsies. The victims I had ranged from 3 to 11 wound apiece. I only saw two of them with close range shooting. But, you know, that’s a sample. I really don’t have of detailed information on the rest of the injuries.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE REPORTER: But you said it was the long rifle that was used?
UNIDENTIFIED MALE REPORTER: I thought the long rifle was discovered in the car. That’s not correct?
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: That’s not correct, sir.
Nothing said by Wayne Carver in these exchanges was incorrect or inaccurate.
“A classic example of the blanks comes up when you talk about where are the kids that are evacuating the school. There were helicopters that were circling overhead. They certainly would have been able to show, you know, hundreds of kids exiting the school.” pg. 111
They had already been evacuated! This video is from 10:45AM!
“But you did see a picture out in a parking lot, which by the way if you take a long look at this picture of all these kids being led out, about 15 or 20 kids being led out by teachers and adults from this parking lot, if you take a look at the parking lot from the aerial views, you can see that there are different cars in the parking lot in that area.” pg. 111
Total bullshit, and debunked about as hard as something could be debunked.
“Gene Rosen was the man who was very close to the school and he took the kids in and offered them juice and cookies” pg. 112
Oh no, juice and cookies?? To distraught children?? Again, the Gene Rosen story has already been covered in the Chapter Five debunk. And I’ll cover it again… now:
“I can comment on this because this points to this proves my point that these kids …did they get off a bus? Where did they go? OK, I think that one of the stories was that the kids got off the bus and they made their way to his house, and there was all this panic or whatever was going on. OK, there’s something really wrong with that picture to begin with.” pg. 112
None of this happened! This is 100% wrong. The bus driver – who was driving her own personal vehicle at the time and not a bus – saw a small group of children who had escaped the school running along Riverside Road (which intersects with Dickinson at the fire house). Once she realized something was wrong, she pulled over and attempted to help. Gene Rosen, who lives next to the firehouse, came out from his house to assist. That’s the way both Gene Rosen as well as the bus driver (whose police interview can be read in Book 5, 00003250.pdf) tell the story and it is corroborated by an unnamed parent in Book 5, 00002296.pdf.
“S: So what…would the protocol be that the children…the children, according to the story, left the school on their own. P: Well, that to me, that’s very suspicious in and of itself.” pg. 112
What is so suspicious about children running from danger? These are five and six year-olds who just witnessed their classmates as well as their teacher being mowed down. Paul Preston’s heard of fight or flight, correct? Maybe? One of the children even told police that once they left the classroom, they knew where to go and what to do due to their participation in past fire drills.
And if you’re designing and executing a fake shooting – a “false flag” – in order to pitch some sort of limp-dicked gun legislation, then why even leave survivors? Wouldn’t nine more murdered children help to strengthen that cause?
“How did the kids get out and just run down the road, you know?” pg. 112
Through the fucking door.
“You know, they had a couple of guys that were chased through the woods. What were they all about? And there were no answers about any of that, about where they came from and even my people couldn’t come up with an answer about that.” pg. 113
First they chased “that one guy” into the woods. Now they’re chasing guys (plural) through the woods. Either way, this is not true in the slightest. The questions regarding the people found around the school have been answered years ago. See above and maybe write it down this time, so you can finally stop asking it.
“And to me the people that were there-–they weren’t dressed for December.” pg. 114
Is Preston now doubting that the helicopter footage was taken on December 14th? Keep in mind, this is the same chapter where he (falsely) suggest that the most accurate information is the stuff you see early on, and yet here we are with helicopter footage from that morning and Preston is doubting its authenticity.
I’ve already discussed the temperature in an earlier chapter debunk. To recap, it was probably ~38 at the time the helicopter footage was taken and plenty of people are dressed appropriately.
“If there’s a signal to get them out of the building, and there’s always a signal of some sort to get them out of the building safely, they go directly out. Period. End of subject.” pg. 114
So were they supposed to get their fucking coats or not? Vivian Lee says yes in chapter 5. And now Paul Preston says no. Of course you’re not supposed to get your fucking coats. Someone is shooting up the school!
“And there were some people said that they were in closets for up to four hours.” pg. 114
Who said this? Where did they say this? The school had been cleared and the last of the children had been evacuated by 10:30 or so. No one was in a closet until 1:30PM.
“And the idea of Kaitlyn Roig and some of these teachers bundling up all their kids into the bathroom and having a few sit on the toilet…I even heard the toilet roll holder, my God, that’s pretty tough to do even for a six year old. But what do you think of that? That doesn’t make sense to me.” pg. 115
Why doesn’t that make sense? “Well, it doesn’t make sense to me, therefore it must not have happened.”
According to Roig, “We all push into the bathroom and when there isn’t a millimeter of space left, I begin lifting students and piling them inside. I place one student, then two, then three on top of the toilet and hoist up my littlest girl and sit her on the toilet paper dispenser.”
But that girl – again, her “littlest” – only sat on the toilet paper dispenser “for a moment” or two while Kaitlyn shuffled the children around.
“Roig stated she put the littlest one on the toilet dispenser for a moment and held her there with one arm as she moved the kids around.”
And the children placed on the toilet were only there temporarily as well.
“At one point, there were 5-6 kids standing on the toilet, all at once, so she could make room, and only one child remained there the whole time”
This information comes straight from Kaitlyn’s police interview (Book 5, 00091247.pdf).
“If there is a shooter there to take the challenge. We used to do these things where we had these dummy books and we’d bring in an active shooter as the stage person and throw books at them, you know, because that really throws them off. You’re taught those kinds of little techniques to throw the active shooter off.” pg. 115
Holy shit. Alleged school safety expert, Paul Preston, thinks that a bunch of five and six and year-olds should have thrown books at Adam Lazna, who was armed with an AR-15 and two handguns. Brilliant.
(Regarding Adam Lazna) “And of course if you’re doing a fictionalized event like this, you want to have the most crazed individual that you can have looking at you through the picture there, and that’s exactly what you have. That’s my speculation” pg. 116
Maybe he looked crazy because he was crazy, as evidenced by the fact that he murdered a bunch of children. Or maybe, with the limited number of pictures available to them (Adam hated having his photo taken), the media chose to run with the craziest looking picture. Whichever one you pick, it’s infinitely more credible.
Besides, if you look at the pictures that they usually run for the 9/11 hijackers, or the Tsarnaev brothers (both “false flag” events, according to Fetzer and Preston), there’s nothing “crazed” about them; they look very completely normal.
“And he has a history and what is the history? We’re not real clear on the history.” pg. 116
There’s a entire report on his history. How much do you need to know about a total stranger? Are you familiar with HIPAA?
“You know, first of all, they found out that he’s got his brother’s driver’s license. Then there’s some confusion. And you know it one of these kind of scenarios that just didn’t quite fit. And as a school person that to me was one of the big pieces of evidence. Why does he have his brother’s license?” pg. 116
Adam never had Ryan’s driver’s license. Ryan had his license on him in Hoboken when he was taken into custody by the police.
“That’s a very very good point, Paul. Excellent. And we should add that the mug shot that they gave us of Adam Lanza was very painterly. It wasn’t even a photo,” pg. 116
That’s definitely a photo, and it is definitely not a mug shot. He was never arrested, so he wouldn’t have one. So they’re 0-2 here.